https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/16/podcasts/ezra-klein-podcast-alison-gopnik-transcript.html
The Ezra Klein Show
Transcript: Ezra Klein Interviews Alison Gopnik
The April 16 episode of “The Ezra Klein Show.”
April 16, 2021
“And I find the direction you’re coming into this from really interesting that there’s this idea we just create A.I., and now there’s increasingly conversation over the possibility that we will need to parent A.I…. what would you have to do to design an A.I. system that was as smart as a two-year-old basically, right?”